Wednesday, April 9, 2008

A Way to Decide

"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in... And how many want out."
[Tony Blair]


That being said, let us take a look at the more recent activity of both Amway (Quixtar.com) and Mona-Vie (monavie.com) to see if we can help make a determination.


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Now please see my disclaimer about statistics in my previous post about graphs from this web traffic tracker. Now that you have looked at that again you realize that Amway had over 100k hits in June/July 2007 and is down over 70% at its lowest point in February. (2 months ago and still declining) If you take rough averages it is down on average just over 50% on monthly site hits, or number of IBOs, customers (as if they really have any) and casual site lookers. If their business doesn't reflect a 50% reduction you can be assured it soon will. This just goes to show what I read today in Colonel Jeff O'Leary's "Centurion Principles" is more true than Amway thinks.

If you or your leaders are in the habit of conveying an attitude that says, "If I wanted your opinion, I'd ask for it," (sounds like Amway telling the IBOAI board it refuses to follow the board's unanimous vote) expect to get very little feedback. Even if your ship is sinking, your team may go down in silence (sounds like those remaining with Amway secretly wishing they were not) while desperately seeking the nearest exit.
[Col. Jeff O'Leary (RET.)]


The leaders of TEAM and the 1/3 of the IBOAI board that left did not go quietly as the ship sinks. The rest of you desperately looking for freedom from Amway will soon be in luck as the court rules the IBO contract null and void piece by piece, and you too will have your freedom.

"Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better."
[Albert Camus]

Let's all be better together! Now lets take a look for the first time at Mona Vie's site traffic:


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Looks to me like Mona Vie has more than doubled its site traffic in the same amount of time Amway lost over half. Also note that Mona Vie did not gain the same rough numbers that Amway lost, so it was NOT just a shift of distributors from an illegal pyramid to a valid business opportunity. It was more like over 40k IBOs jumping ship from a dangerous endeavor, and several thousand new distributors choosing to join the world of network marketing while the majority of the 40k that left Amway sit out an illegal non-compete clause.

The facts speak for themselves.

6 comments:

Ian from Texas said...

Good to see you back.

Ian from Texas

Hurting Inside said...

Why thank you, good to be back!

-Hurting Inside
(The Mr. of the couple)

Knows Better said...

There are no Quantcast "tags" on Monavie.com or Quixtar.com, so there is NO WAY Quantcast can do anything but make wild guesses about visitors to either location. If you go to the Quantcast page for either site, you'll see the (small) notice:

[These results are only estimates.
Get Quantified to see more accurate results.]

The word "Quantified" is a link to an invitation to the companies to allow Quantcast tags on their site.

So, unfortunately, that renders your analysis less than useful.

Hurting Inside said...

knows better,

You are absolutely wrong. Yes, tags would help in giving much more accurate results; however, it is very easy to monitor general website traffic without them. This can be done with either the DNS, the IP of the webserver, or even the webhost in the cases of third party hosts.

I assure you that these measuremeants are "only estimates" but they are very good estimates. The only way to be more exact would be with tags, yet these are in no such way "wild guesses."

Lastly, even if they are just vague representations one site is shown plummeting and the other soaring over the period of several months. That is enough information for me. If these were stocks which one would you be more excited about owning?

My analysis rendered more than usefull.

Sorry.


http://www.micropersuasion.com/2006/10/quantcast_is_a_.html

Amthrax said...

Apologies if this isn't the right place to post this comment. I read one of your comments on Orrin's website:

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Speaking of Passion, I think I may have to start going by "Healing Inside" rather than hurting inside as I am over the initial pain of what felt like personal betrayal from Q/A and am now excited and passionate about starting a MV business from scratch!
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My question to you is why do you have to start your MV business from scratch? Were you not able to migrate your entire downline into MV as Orrin did? He went from a new MV distributor to Black Diamond in the span of just a few months, so I have to believe that the structure of his downline were transferred over from his A/Q LOS.

Hurting Inside said...

@amthrax

nice handle!

This is an okay a place as any I suppose!

Let me clear a few things up.

1. I have never been in Orrin's downline. I have only been a customer of TEAM/Leadership Inc. Leadership Development Materials and Seminars.

2. I will not, and nor did Orrin, solicit any former Q/A members to join my/his MV LOS. They come to us first if they are interested.

3. In Quix I didn't have much of a downline. I was in an org that was building width and I was bad at it. Once we became customers of Team training and started building depth I went from 3 deep to about 15 deep in the span of a couple months. We were still learning the process so it wasn't moving as fast as I expect MV to.

4. My old quix LOS is pretty much lost as they were all nearly brand new when we were all attacked by Amway. They are more than likely scared off, but again, I'm not chasing them or soliciting them.

I have a guess that 2 or 3 of them may get interested when they see the MV logo on my car, if they do then I'll be starting slightly above scratch!

Thanks for your questions, please feel free to ask anything else you like.